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Over the years a lot of bad things have happened to Russia, Vladimir Putin is one of them.


Agreed.


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Putin is a big fan of Judo and has been practicing judo since he was six years old. He likes and loves judo very, very much.

This cartoon by Blower from the Daily Telegraph links Vladimir Putin's visit to London on Thursday with the trial of feminist punk band Pussy Riot, jailed since March after performing a "punk prayer" against the Russian President in Moscow's main cathedral. After holding talks at Downing Street, Putin and UK PM David Cameron headed to the ExCel centre to watch the judo finals.

In the cartoon, Putin is portrayed as a judo black belt who has just won the Olympic gold medal by defeating the three members of Pussy Riot. The women have their hands cuffed behind their backs, while their placards demanding 'Free Speech', 'Justice For All' and 'Democracy For Russia' lie broken beside them.

The cartoon is an obvious metaphor for Putin's growing repression of civil freedom in Russia.

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Edited by Great Ape, 06 August 2012 - 02:00 PM.

                                          


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Unlike the stupid commies (oh, wait, he was head of the KGB) he is using the local Jesus industry instead of fighting it. He does not kill them, they praise him to high heavens.

If there is one personality trait a well established religion respects in a national leader it's brutality, wait, repression, no, wait, intolerance! Hey, they got the package deal.

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Unlike the stupid commies (oh, wait, he was head of the KGB) he is using the local Jesus industry instead of fighting it. He does not kill them, they praise him to high heavens.

If there is one personality trait a well established religion respects in a national leader it's brutality, wait, repression, no, wait, intolerance! Hey, they got the package deal.


Well said.


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As the trial nears the end, prosecutors on Tuesday called for three-year prison sentences, which they said was lenient because the hooliganism charges they face carry a maximum sentence of seven years. They said they took into account that two of the women have young children and that they have good character references.

Putin has criticized the punk rockers, but said their punishment shouldn't be "too severe." Speaking during a visit to the London Olympics last week, Putin suggested that the women should be grateful they didn't try such a stunt in Russia's Caucasus, which is predominantly Muslim. "If they had desecrated some Islamic holy site, we wouldn't even have had time to take them into custody," Putin said.

Putin's comments triggered speculation that the Kremlin was trying to find a way to resolve the case without appearing weak or further angering either side.

The case against the three women – Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, Maria Alekhina and Yekaterina Samutsevich – wrapped up on Wednesday. The judge said she will issue a verdict next week, on Aug. 17.

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It looks like Pussy Riot will get a three year sentence. I figured they wouldn't get the full seven years, but it's looking like they will get some prison time. So much for free speech in Russia.


THE CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

SECTION ONE

Chapter 2. Rights and Liberties of Man and Citizen


Article 29.
  • Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought and speech.
  • Propaganda or campaigning inciting social, racial, national or religious hatred and strife is impermissible. The propaganda of social, racial, national, religious or language superiority is forbidden.
  • No one may be coerced into expressing one's views and convictions or into renouncing them.
  • Everyone shall have the right to seek, get, transfer, produce and disseminate information by any lawful means. The list of information constituting the state secret shall be established by the federal law.
  • The freedom of the mass media shall be guaranteed. Censorship shall be prohibited.
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I love the way #2 pretty much cancels out #1.

                                          


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Russia practically invented show trials.

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Check this out guys.


Vladimir Putin thinks Vladimir Putin is the bad-boy of Russia. And such a standing does not allow for hand-kissing.

On Monday, The Guardian published footage of Putin's visit to a 14th century monastery. In the video, the president makes his way down a line of officials, shaking hands and greeting the gentlemen.

When Putin meets a Russian Orthodox priest, however, things go awry.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwznxJ8zaE


While Putin's reaction is certainly interesting, I find the fact the Russian Orthodox priest wanted to kowtow to Putin, by kissing his hand, more revealing. It shows that the Church certainly knows who their benefactor is, and that the Russian Orthodox church completely supports Putin.

Edited by Great Ape, 08 August 2012 - 09:13 AM.

                                          


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I don't believe there is a single word in the US Constitution or any Amendment specifically describing something citizens may not do. Prohibitions against conduct are called laws in the United States. Laws do not appear in our Constitution, it is simply a framework or a foundation that defines and originally limited (before it was neutered) what the government can (used to be able to) do.

As far as Russia goes, it is an evolutionary cesspool for international crimes. The best and strongest crime enterprises are the ones that survive in Russia, for example Putin. There is so much official, endorsed repression and corruption in Russia that one wonders if anarchy would be an improvement.

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Russia practically invented show trials.

Brave girls.


Brave girls indeed. They were fearless in court.


MOSCOW, Aug 8 (Reuters) - Members of the Pussy Riot punk band likened themselves to Soviet-era dissidents on Wednesday, saying their trial for performing an anti-Kremlin stunt on a cathedral altar was unjust, but that nobody could take away their inner freedom.

To occasional bursts of applause from supporters, the three women were making their last pleas before a court rules whether they are guilty of hooliganism motivated by religious hatred for storming the altar of Moscow's biggest cathedral and beseeching the Virgin Mary to rid Russia of President Vladimir Putin.

"I am not afraid of your poorly concealed fraud of a verdict in this so-called court because it can deprive me of my freedom," Maria Alyokhina, one of the three, said. "No one will take my inner freedom away."

Tolokonnikova welcomed the latest display of support from abroad after American singer Madonna donned the band's trademark balaclava and stripped to a black bra to show their name on her back during a concert in Moscow on Tuesday night.

"Katya (Samutsevich), Masha (Alyokhina) and I are sitting in jail but I do not believe we have been defeated, just like the dissidents were not defeated. Lost in psychological hospitals and prisons, they served out their sentences."

Friends and family applauded her in the courtroom.

"With every day, more and more people believe us, and believe in us, and think we should not be behind bars," Tolokonnikova said, leaning forward to address the court through a tiny window in the glass and metal cage.

"I want to cry when I see how the methods of the medieval inquisition preside over Russian law enforcement and the judicial system," she said in a speech peppered with literary references, including to Alexander Solzhenitsyn, whose writing documented life in the Gulag Soviet prison system.

Quoting lyrics from Pussy Riot performances, at one point the courtroom burst into applause, prompting the judge to call for calm.

"We are not in a theatre," the judge said.

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I thought these two paragraphs particularly interesting.

The Kremlin is in a tight spot. In a country where few believe in the independence of the judiciary, it might be applauded by its critics if the sentences are relatively lenient.

But if the sentences are seen as too lenient, church leaders - who along with believers upset by the performance have been demanding tough sentences - may be angry.


Church leaders and believers are demanding tough sentences! These so called Christians, would like to see these young girls rot behind bars, in a Russian prison for seven years. All Pussy Riot did, was pantomime playing a song in a Russian Orthodox Church, and now they hate them for it. The church will not extend any forgiveness, understanding or compassion. Nope, not one thing that Jesus teaches will be given to Pussy Riot by the church or its congregants.

Somewhere baby Jesus really is crying.

Edited by Great Ape, 08 August 2012 - 11:18 AM.

                                          


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If Putin is getting bad press and losing standing in the international community, then some good has come from this scandal.

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Pussy Riot members sentenced to 2 years in prison


USA Today | August 17, 2012

MOSCOW – A Moscow judge sentenced three members of the provocative punk band Pussy Riot to two years in prison on hooliganism charges on Friday following a trial seen around the world as an emblem of Russia's intolerance of dissent.

The trial inspired a wave of small but raucous protests across Europe and North America in support of the feminist rockers, who have been dubbed prisoners of conscience by Amnesty International. Hundreds of Pussy Riot supporters waiting outside the Moscow courtroom chanted "down with the police state" when the sentence was announced. Dozens were detained, including several opposition leaders.

Judge Marina Syrova said in her verdict that the band members "committed hooliganism driven by religious hatred." She rejected the women's arguments that they were protesting the Orthodox Church's support for Putin and didn't intend to offend religious believers.

Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 22, Maria Alekhina, 24, and Yekaterina Samutsevich, 30, stood in handcuffs in a glass cage in the courtroom for three hours as the judge read the verdict. They smiled sadly as the judge recounted testimony of prosecution witnesses accusing them of sacrilege and "devilish dances" in church and said that their feminist views made them hate the Orthodox religion.

Tolokonnikova laughed out loud when the judge read the testimony of a psychologist who said that her "active stance on social issues" was an anomaly.

The three women remained calm and kept smiling after the judge announced the sentence. Someone in the courtroom shouted "Shame!" They waved at relatives from behind the glass.

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Defense lawyers said they would appeal the verdict, although they had little hope that it would be overturned. "Under no circumstances will the girls ask for a pardon (from Putin)," said Mark Feygin. "They will not beg and humiliate themselves before such a bastard."

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They were accused of "devilish dances" in church. Wow. OK. I didn't realize Russia was still in the middle ages. At any rate, it seems the girls weren't cowed by Putin, the Russian court, the Russian Orthodox Church or the two year prison sentence they received. You got to respect that.

*There is a lot more to this article which you can read at the supplied link.


2 Pussy Riot members flee Russia to escape arrest over protest against Vladimir Putin


New York Daily News | August 26, 2012

MOSCOW — Two members of the punk band Pussy Riot have fled Russia to avoid prosecution for a protest against Vladimir Putin that sent three of their band mates to prison, the group said Sunday.

Five members of the feminist group took part in a provocative performance inside Moscow's main cathedral in February to protest the Russian leader's rule and his cozy relationship with the Orthodox Church. The women wore their trademark garishly colored balaclavas, which made it difficult for police to identify them, and only three were arrested.

After a controversial trial that highlighted Putin's crackdown on dissent since he began a third presidential term in May, the three band members were convicted of hooliganism and sentenced to two years in prison on Aug. 17. Days later, Moscow police said they were searching for the other band members, an apparent warning to the group to stop its anti-Putin protests.

Even as the judge was reading the verdict in a Moscow courtroom, one of the band members who had escaped arrest played Pussy Riot's latest song, "Putin sets the fires of revolutions," from the balcony of an apartment building across the street.

Pussy Riot tweeted on Sunday that the two activists had fled Russia and are "recruiting foreign feminists to prepare new protest actions." No mention was made of where they went.

At least 12 other members of the group remain in Russia, another message on Twitter said.

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Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola break it down on The Young Turks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx4jpQe7mdQ&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=23&feature=plcp


I agree that it was damn ballsy for one of the band members of Pussy Riot — who had escaped arrest — to play Pussy Riot's latest song, from the balcony of an apartment building across the street. I also agree the other members of Pussy Riot should get the hell out of Russia ASAP. I have no doubt Putin will be targeting them next. He doesn't seen the type to let this go. I wish them all well.

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They were accused of "devilish dances" in church. Wow. OK. I didn't realize Russia was still in the middle ages.


They were originally accused of (not charged with) things like blasphemy and noise pollution. Some witnesses even complained about how loud the church performance was - and then it was discovered that the girls were only miming and the sound track was added later. So no noise; no blasphemy, the only thing left was "dance", and probably (as you hinted) in order to find the law against dance, they had to go all the way back to the "devilish dance" laws from the middle ages.
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They were originally accused of (not charged with) things like blasphemy and noise pollution. Some witnesses even complained about how loud the church performance was - and then it was discovered that the girls were only miming and the sound track was added later. So no noise; no blasphemy, the only thing left was "dance", and probably (as you hinted) in order to find the law against dance, they had to go all the way back to the "devilish dance" laws from the middle ages.


That's right, they did pantomime their performance in Church. So all they really did, was pretend to sing and play some instruments in a Russian Orthodox Church. Which is a pretty sad reason to put these three young girls in prison for two years. Not to mention the time they have already spent in jail.

Obviously they were railroaded for political reasons.

                                          


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Igor Danilevsky, Alleged Russian Murderer,

Wrote Free Pussy Riot On Crime Scene To Mislead Police


The Huffington Post | August 31, 2012

MOSCOW -- Investigators say police have detained a man who has confessed to killing two women in a central Russian city, and then tried to mislead investigations by scrawling a message at the murder scene demanding freedom for jailed members of the Pussy Riot band.

The man – a 38-year-old university professor named Igor Danilevsky – was detained Thursday in Kazan, Russia's Investigative Committee said on Friday. It said Danilevsky wrote "Free Pussy Riot" on a wall in the victims' blood because he wanted the deaths of the 38-year-old woman he dated and her mother, 76, to appear as if they were a "ritual killing."

The Committee said Danilevsky had convinced the woman to take out a loan to repay his debts, and promised to marry her. Police had found the knife used to stab the women to death and disfigure their faces and bodies, it said.

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The jailed band members' attorney had called the two women's murder "either a horrendous provocation or a psychopathic" case.

Kremlin-friendly media and Orthodox Church clerics had seized upon the alleged link between the murder and the band to lambast the artists and their supporters, and compared them to mass murderer Charles Manson, whose followers used the blood of victims to write on the walls of their houses.

Some Russian publications ran headlines claiming Pussy Riot supporters "committed" or "inspired" the double homicide. The coverage was full of the mostly negative terms used by Kremlin-friendly television networks and media in their coverage of the protesters' trial.

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Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola (host of TYT University and Common Room) discuss on The Young Turks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDT3aA16jsQ&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=6&feature=plcp


Now that is a bizarre development in the Pussy Riot saga. Some guy kills his girlfriend and girlfriend's mother, and then tries to pin the blame on the band by writing, "Free Pussy Riot" on the wall.

I can see that. At least it is logical from a homicidal maniac point of view. What I couldn't see, was how the Russian Orthodox Church acted upon hearing the story. What kind of Christian church do they have over in Russia anyway? What happened to all the forgive and forget and love thy neighbor crap?

Not these guys, they are using the story to lambaste Pussy Riot and their supporters in the news. When you want real evil dudes, you want the Russian Orthodox clergy.

Anyway, an unexpected and strange turn of events in the continuing Pussy Riot saga.

Edited by Great Ape, 31 August 2012 - 09:04 AM.

                                          


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What happened to all the forgive and forget and love thy neighbor crap?


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What kind of Christian church do they have over in Russia anyway?


The same kind of Christian church that would serve the legitimacy of the Tsars for centuries.
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The same kind of Christian church that would serve the legitimacy of the Tsars for centuries.


Only God can judge an unjust king.


OK, all we have to do is substitute King for President. I guess old habits are hard to break for the Russian Orthodox Church. More's the pity.

                                          


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It is my experience that Catholic-flavored churches exhibit a clear pattern of strong support for repressive, dictatorial regimes as long as those governments are not opposed to sharing the wealth of the sheeple with the Catholic-affiliated corporation. On the other hand when a non-dictator who does not repress his sheeple displays progressive, humanist tendencies - as applies to Obama - the Catholic corporate culture goes on the attack.

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Pussy Riot Band Members Should Be Freed, Says Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev


The Huffington Post | September 12, 2012

MOSCOW — Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on Wednesday called for three members of the punk band Pussy Riot to be freed, a sign that the women's release could be imminent since their case comes up for appeal on Oct. 1.

By being the one to call for the women's release, Medvedev, who has cultivated the image of a more liberal leader, could allow Putin to put the uncomfortable case behind him while not appearing weak.

The outward appearance of the women, who perform in bright-colored miniskirts and balaclavas, and the "hysteria" accompanying them made him sick, Medvedev said with disdain. But he said keeping them in prison any longer would be "unproductive."

"In my view, a suspended sentence would be sufficient, taking into account the time they have already spent in custody," he said during a televised meeting with members of his United Russia party in the city of Penza.

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Yay! it looks like the three members of Pussy Riot may be freed. I guess international pressure does work. Woot!

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I'm guessing Medvedev would not have said that without permission from His Excellency, so it looks like Medvedev has been selected to make Putin look good. This way Putin never backed down, an impossibility for a murdering egomaniac.

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