Well, Brexit won't occur for another two years and it isn't impossible that there will be another referendum on the issue. The Danes had a two referendums on Maastricht (1990s) and the Irish on the Lisbon Treaty (2008ish). As a LibDem MEP said, "The EU is like the Hotel California. One can check out but one can never really leave."
Only one member state, Ireland, obliged by their constitution, decided on ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon through a referendum, and rejected the treaty a first time.
After rejecting the [Maastricht] treaty in a referendum the previous year, this time it was approved by 56.7% of voters with an 86.5% turnout.
The Scottish National Party are trying to get their referendum in first as they think they see an opening for Scottish "independence"...
National independence is a matter of degree, not absolute. And Sinn Fein want a referendum on a united Ireland.
Britain is in the EEA (European Economic Area), but if trade negotiations (between the EU and UK) are held under WTO (World Trade Org) rules the EU are going to want the UK to join the Schengen Zone. I wonder how Brexiteers will feel if that is conceded?
I comment on AtheismUK and others comment on the Atheist Republic (for those interested).
This is my opinion, (if wanted):
I think it is time for calm and carry on. Everyone knew there would be this economic downturn in the short run. Cameron has offered to resign and said he should do so before the Tory Party Conference (Oct 2016). That is just politicking as the alternative may be Boris.
This might be the best thing for Europe. Hopefully, it will stop the rise of right-wing parties in Europe and bring about the changes in the EU many have been calling for.
It isn't just about the economy. Maybe now there will be something done about the "democratic deficit" in the EU. The UK is still in the EEA and as Mr Cameron has said we must ALL now make this work...
The growth of right-wing parties has to be countered somehow. Uniting European peoples is the aim, not just creating dysfunctional and inefficient institutions. (The EU still can't decide on a capital city and spends £millions moving EU Parliament between Brussels and Strasbourg each month.) Increasing the political unity only at the highest level without the economic and other convergence that everyone had once agreed was a prerequisite for political convergence wasn't achieving greater unity. Nor was it providing the greater economic prosperity it implies. (Greece, Euro and the rise of extreme parties). There could be far more damaging consequences for Europe than merely a Brexit. This could be the shot-in-the-arm the EU needs. It depends on what happens next.
It doesn't affect NATO. There will be no legal vacuum or political instability. Change has to happen by some means and in a timely way as lack of change (too much stability) can also be a bad thing.
One of the things to learn from this is about politicians scaremongering. If Mr Cameron, Mr Major, Mr Junker, et al had stopped blathering about us taking a momentous decision on behalf of future generations and had pointed out things like the loss of our AAA credit rating this Brexit probably wouldn't have happened. We can apply to rejoin the EU at any future date.
People might think about when referendums are appropriate and what they are meant to achieve too.
The best thing is to keep Europe working together.
Mr G Brown famously accused someone of bigotry....
I doubt Xenophobia or prejudice are important to the discussion on Brexit. If there are instances it helps to be specific. Otherwise "they" did "it". I hope everyone might agree that people should be able to demand a referendum on Brexit or discuss immigration issues without being accused of xenophobia or prejudice, either individually or collectively. Talking freely on these subjects without being accused of something malign can seem to be a problem in the UK sometimes.
Sorry for the long post, but I honestly feel there's a lot of misunderstanding on this subject and I didn't want the discussion to be about a bunch of xenophobes.
Edited by Zeff, 24 June 2016 - 09:15 AM.