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You may be familiar with the Amazon Alexa family of voice assistant speakers like the Echo.

 

We are literally heavily invested in Alexa technology here. Back when we first returned from Hawaii when I was using a walker there was a floor lamp in my office that was difficult to reach. So we connected it to an Alexa-capable switched outlet so I could say "Alexa, turn on the office light." and there would be light.

This "morning", actually more like 11:30PM when I woke up from my brief night's sleep, Alexa was unable to turn on the light because our Internet connection was down.  I found that our router locked up, rebooted it, then I was able to turn on the light.

 

This episode illustrates the fact that the more complex a system the greater the chance of failure.  Wall switches tend to be highly reliable by comparison.


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I'll stick with switches methinks. The ads on tv of people talking to ''Alexa'' are just a big turn off for me, & am not the least bit interested. I'd rather get a service dog....hahahaha.....


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We keep as low-tech as possible at our house. We have a computer and 2 clam shell Cellular One phones, we only use them to make phone calls. no texting, no nothin'. And still have our land line and will never give that up, but we did make a remarkable change last year and we now have our land line phone service with the same local internet provider we have been with since 2005.  We are wireless, but still have to have a little antenna on the roof to pull in the signal. 

 

I don't even understand how wi-fi works or any of that stuff like Alexa or Echo. 


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I understand how they work fairly well but I still mostly use mine for trivial tasks like "Alexa, start a timer for 11 minutes" when I put a pizza in the oven.  I also use them for measurement conversions "Alexa, convert 6cm to inches" and to play music "Alexa, play Mental Anguish by Easily Embarrassed."

 

(Yes, I can haz pizza made by Daiya)

 

Now DH on the other hand is one of the people who makes Alexa work, being as he is a brilliant programmer.

 

You may encounter claims that these devices are constantly recording what you say, that is false.  The Echo products never record anything until you say the wake word. It has also been claimed that they constantly send your conversations to mysterious conspiracy villains, those claims are false.

 

What they do is listen for their wake word, by default it is Alexa, then they do start sending your speech to the Big AI.  Once your voice sample is there supercomputers ty to figure out if you gave a command or asked a question, etc. Until you say the wake word they do nothing at all except listen for the wake word. The speakers have no intelligence they are only capable of recognizing their configured wake word then relaying everything else to Big AI.


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I just don't know how things are connected, you just set one of those things in your house and everything can just connect and get a signal? how does that work ?

 

I'm not concerned about anybody listening to us or recording anything. boy how boring that would be.


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I always wonder how much is too much, & a needless expense. Some things I just have no interest in.

 

My husband touches no computer whatsoever. He's manged to learn how to use a cell phone, but that's the extent of his techie skills, so anything new around here, I'm the one who has to learn how to use it.


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I always wonder how much is too much, & a needless expense. Some things I just have no interest in.

 

My husband touches no computer whatsoever. He's manged to learn how to use a cell phone, but that's the extent of his techie skills, so anything new around here, I'm the one who has to learn how to use it.

 Everytime we get something new we just groan and roll our eyes.And if it has to do with the computer, I'm your man, er woman. Although the mister is a whizz at hooking stuff up and working on things that were made before the tech revolution.  But stuff is getting easier, lots of color coded plugs, that helps.

 

We do without a few things because we see no use for them. I still consider the fact that we have a computer and digital cameras as being high tech


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I have the computer, the tablet, the portable dvd player, digital camera, & video camera. He doesn't even know where the start buttons are.

 

We have smart phones & tv satellite. I finally got him learning his phone, but I had to learn the tv & satellite, etc. He has his model trains.


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I just don't know how things are connected, you just set one of those things in your house and everything can just connect and get a signal? how does that work ?

 

I'm not concerned about anybody listening to us or recording anything. boy how boring that would be.

 

All of voice assistants use your WiFi network to reach their mother ship.  With Amazon Alexa you use a smart phone app to initially get it onto your network.  I would not recommend these products to anybody without a smart phone.

 

I don't know offhand how many computers I own but it is in the neighborhood of twenty or so. That includes 10 security cameras I have built myself, each based on a Linux computer.


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Since I've retired I've seemed to shut down part of my brain and just want to live as simply as possible.  I do like our cell phones, they come in handy, especially when the power or internet/phone goes down. 

 

Jade my husband has radio control airplanes and now he has a slot car track in the garage.  So I rarely see him except at dinnertime. If I quit feeding him I'd probably never see the man.  


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Hahaha.....my husband also has remote controlled mini helicopters, but much prefers his trains.

 

Video of trains with horn, & mooing cattle.......

 

 


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Holy cow, this is terrific! I'm sending this to my uncle who has trains, he will just crap when he sees this set up. I loved your husband's head popping up occasionally and you are right those cows do sound like they have urgent needs. 

 

I'm sure I distinctly heard an elephant among the herd.  How long has he been working on this train world, it's pretty epic indeed.

 

Hahaha.....my husband also has remote controlled mini helicopters, but much prefers his trains.

 

Video of trains with horn, & mooing cattle.......

 

 


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That is quite a setup, Jade!

 

My brother used to have his entire basement setup with model trains. And my younger grandson is obsessed with trains.


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Rick retired in 1999, but built the basement suite first. Then he got into the trains about 10 years ago or so.

Rick has commandeered the 3rd bedroom upstairs for this hobby, & its a constant joke that he wants to expand into the whole house.

Here's another with our youngest son at the doorway.

 


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The posters he found fit perfectly into the scenics on the walls. He also had a shower curtain printed with a forestry design to eventually hang over the bedroom window. He made the ''trees'' from lilac blossom twigs, dried after the flowering season.

 

This is one of the first videos I tried.....

 


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What a wonderful little world he has built.


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I had a look on You Tube and found a video that shows a train set of the type I had when I was about 8 or 9 years old.

 


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Trains are fascinating, big or miniature. Rick can get involved enough to forget his heart issues. Its a great stress reliever.


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