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I hope we have not forgotten Galileo.  That was also the inquisition.  They did burn Brno's mother as a witch.  


Edited by jonathanlobl, 04 July 2018 - 03:34 AM.

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The moral of this story is that the evil deeds done by a religion rise in proportion to its political power.

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The chart is simplistic.  It doesn't distinguish between cultural religious domination -- such as we have in Texas.  Or domination by a specific Church -- such as Catholic or Mormon.

 

There is also the difference in the vigor of evil, in the Islamic world.  Sunni in Saudi Arabia or Shia in Iran.  Or more subtle power such as we find in Indonesia -- where Islam is supposedly less powerful -- but almost as deadly.  It's a nuance.

 

We should also remember that where Christianity is dominant in Africa; it tends to be a much more forceful evil, than anything in the current West.  I suspect this is because African Christianity and African Islam, rub against each other in nasty ways.  


Edited by jonathanlobl, 16 July 2018 - 03:30 AM.

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The chart is indeed simplistic.  Maybe in some parts of Africa the locally dominant religion has a large enough majority to let them get away with being more brutal?

 

Remember the phrase melting pot? We used to hear it used to describe the United States. There once was a notion that all creeds and colors were welcome, but now we have Republicans.  I think being a melting pot puts the brakes on any one ideology ruling over all.


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The chart is indeed simplistic.  Maybe in some parts of Africa the locally dominant religion has a large enough majority to let them get away with being more brutal?

 

Remember the phrase melting pot? We used to hear it used to describe the United States. There once was a notion that all creeds and colors were welcome, but now we have Republicans.  I think being a melting pot puts the brakes on any one ideology ruling over all.

 

To the contrary.  Melting pot means that there is one norm and everybody melts into it.  Guess which norm that is?  Here's a hint.  Not Atheist.  Also, not gay.


Edited by jonathanlobl, 17 July 2018 - 06:11 PM.

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To the contrary.  Melting pot means that there is one norm and everybody melts into it.  Guess which norm that is?  Here's a hint.  Not Atheist.  Also, not gay.

 

I've seen a claim that a more apt metaphor is a stew pot. In a stew, all the ingredients harmonize, but remain distinct.


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The salad bowl is also used as a metaphor.

 

For all that -- why do you suppose we have all that panic about marriage equality?

 

Or the panic about losing the Christian glue that holds society together?

 

Or the angst over racial mixing?

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So long as the melting pot is clearly white and straight and Christian -- the rest of us are welcome to melt in.  When the demographics shift -- it's panic time.

 

I graduated from High School in 1971.  When they did an ethnic survey, the categories were 

 

Black

 

Hispanic

 

Other

 

I was other.  I was also Atheist.  Things change.  I'm just fine with that.  The melting pot isn't what it used to be.  Then again, neither is the future.  


Edited by jonathanlobl, 19 July 2018 - 04:42 PM.

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Wilson has finally resigned.


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Wilson has finally resigned.

 

It's a start.  What about the rest of them?  


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It's a start.  What about the rest of them?  

 

One more bit the dust in the USA last week.


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The Devil Dodgers are still claiming that Wilson is a child's best friend.

 

The bishop in charge of the Archdiocese of Adelaide says while there has been sadness and anger among the Catholic community following the conviction and subsequent resignation of former Archbishop Philip Wilson, people must remember his contribution to improving child protection systems.

 

https://indaily.com....rotection-work/

 

 

Except when the child gets raped by a priest - then Wilson moves from Child protection to Priest protection.


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The Devil Dodgers are still claiming that Wilson is a child's best friend.

 

 

 

Except when the child gets raped by a priest - then Wilson moves from Child protection to Priest protection.

 

In a sense, every successful prosecution of criminals, leads to a stronger legal system.  This is small cause for rejoicing.  


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As expected - home detention.

 

 

Wilson had just been told by a Newcastle magistrate he could serve his sentence for concealing historical child sex abuse in home detention as opposed to prison.

As he left the court, Peter Gogarty — who was a victim of paedophile priest Jim Fletcher — asked Wilson to apologise but the clergyman stayed silent.

 

One of Wilson's supporters asked Gogarty why he did not come forward 40 years ago and later said: "I don't have time for rubbish like you, mate."

 

http://www.abc.net.a...t-home/10117482

 


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Wilson hasn't given up yet:

 

Lawyers appealing former archbishop of Adelaide Phillip Wilson's conviction for covering up child abuse have argued that convincing a child to perform a sex act did not constitute indecent assault in the 1970s.

 

Today in the District Court in Newcastle the defence argued that Wilson could not be convicted of concealing indecent assault, because the sex act described under 1970s law was an act of indecency and not an assault.

 

https://www.abc.net....iction/10559390


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Wilson hasn't given up yet:

 

I hope he gets the shit kicked out of him in prison. Daily.


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Philip Wilson, the former Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide, has had his criminal conviction of covering up child sex abuse quashed on appeal.

https://www.heraldsu...8e498e8ac3996cb

 

On Channel 7 News (Adelaide) the reporter claimed that the Catholic Church offered their thoughts and prayers to everyone involved in the case.


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On Channel 7 News (Adelaide) the reporter claimed that the Catholic Church offered their thoughts and prayers to everyone involved in the case.

 

Hey, I just realized they are as useful to society as the NRA.


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Hey, I just realized they are as useful to society as the NRA.

 

 

Just so.  Thoughts and Prayers -- again.  To me, it's more irritating coming from the Church.  The sanctimony of praying for "everyone involved".  It puts the molesting clergy, on the same level as their victims.


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