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The Pledge of Allegiance

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Yet again.  Fox gets it wrong.

 

 

https://friendlyathe...aux-patriotism/


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"Jingoism" I call it.

 

 

We had a salute-the-flag ceremony when I was going to school in Australia during the 1950s. I don't remember any of the details, but a local blogger describes it this way:

 

Once a week, we would all stand lined up and to attention, on the signal the flag would be "run up". The boys would salute and the girls stand to attention. Then we would place our right hand on our heart and recite "I love God and my country, I honour the flag, I will serve the Queen, and cheerfully obey my parents, teachers and the law".
https://www.adelaide...f3253636baf3cad

 

 

 

In 1969 the affirmation was changed to:


I am an Australian. I love my country. I salute her flag. I honour her Queen. I promise to obey her laws.
http://www.samemory....page.cfm?c=5736

 

 

 

I don't know what they do these days...


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"Jingoism" I call it.

 

 

We had a salute-the-flag ceremony when I was going to school in Australia during the 1950s. I don't remember any of the details, but a local blogger describes it this way:

 

Once a week, we would all stand lined up and to attention, on the signal the flag would be "run up". The boys would salute and the girls stand to attention. Then we would place our right hand on our heart and recite "I love God and my country, I honour the flag, I will serve the Queen, and cheerfully obey my parents, teachers and the law".
https://www.adelaide...f3253636baf3cad

 

 

 

In 1969 the affirmation was changed to:


I am an Australian. I love my country. I salute her flag. I honour her Queen. I promise to obey her laws.
http://www.samemory....page.cfm?c=5736

 

 

 

I don't know what they do these days...

 

 

 

In America, Under God was inserted, about 1954.  It turned harmless jingoism, into a religious oath.

 

It was the Cold War.  President Eisenhower wanted to distinguish the God fearing Americans, from the Godless Commies.  Pure propaganda.  


Edited by jonathanlobl, 01 January 2019 - 01:43 PM.

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 It turned harmless jingoism, into a religious oath.

 

I can't picture any case where jingoism is harmless.  Granted religious fervor tends to be even worse.


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I can't picture any case where jingoism is harmless.  Granted religious fervor tends to be even worse.

 

 

"With Liberty and Justice for All" is a nice sentiment.  Never actually achieved, but something to aspire too.  Then the Dominionists got hold of the Pledge and turned it into a religious oath.  A little something to remind the rest of us that we didn't really belong -- as Papa Bush (41) chose to remind me.  

 

Of course, Trump uses similar language, when sucking up to his religious base.  Even now, they can't tell the difference between a "commie" and an Atheist.  For that matter, between a "commie" and a Democrat -- or a Socialist.  All the same meaning.

 

The Pledge used to be harmless.  Now, it's not.


Edited by jonathanlobl, 02 January 2019 - 06:40 AM.

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