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Darwin on trial - by students


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Testing Darwin's Teachers

[quote]Two decades of political and legal maneuvering on evolution has spilled over into public schools, and biology teachers are struggling to respond. Loyal to the accounts they've learned in church, students are taking it upon themselves to wedge creationism into the classroom, sometimes with snide comments but also with sophisticated questions

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And their parents and preachers - who in any other circumstances would whup their hides for cheeking their teachers - will stand by and cheer them on.
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Well of course these fundified kids want to talk about God in biology class, I mean after all, they are not going to school to get an education!


Schools are for reinforcing ancient superstitions and protecting ignorance from interference from nasty stuff like facts and reality.

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This makes me sick as a student. The only time religion comes up as a subject is in classes where it has meaning to be discussed. Media Studies, Writers Craft, and Philosophy.

Some kids scare me.

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I found this at the AAAS site.

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They'd never get away with this if there were Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Zoroastrian, or students of any other religion in the same classroom, because it would quickly be exposed as a position of religious bigotry on the part of the fundamentalist Christians.  Although the fact that such diversity doesn't already exist in these schools says a lot in itself.  Never mind the fact that God has jack shit to do with the science involved, but I'm sure most sane people already realize that.

How about a compromise?  Let's knock Jehovah out with a giant tranquilizer dart, so we can drag him back to the lab and do experiments on him.  Then, and only then, can ID-ers claim that there is any science behind their ridiculous hypothesis.

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How about a compromise?  Let's knock Jehovah out with a giant tranquilizer dart, so we can drag him back to the lab and do experiments on him.  Then, and only then, can ID-ers claim that there is any science behind their ridiculous hypothesis.


Or how about this compromise, they can teach religion in science class if we can educate kids in evolutionary theory at Sunday School?

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I'm sure glad I don't have to try to teach the little snots!


If they won't learn, you can't teach.

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Loyal to the accounts they've learned in church, students are taking it upon themselves to wedge creationism into the classroom


I doubt it. I'll bet my afterlife that they are getting encouraged by religious leaders. Students don't just get up and start arguing with their teachers. They will typically refrain from trying to piss off someone who grades their work.

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Once in awhile when a student would try to get me going while teaching a class I would gently and quietly take them aside and tell them that to try and argue with me in class was a disruption to the other students irregardless of the subject. I told them that I couldn't allow that to happen as they were there to learn the subject not theology. Never once did a kid ever press the issue or make a scene. Perhaps it was the way I held the grade book in my hand the entire time we talked. :snork_lach:

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I remember when my awesome high school biology teacher was teaching the evolution unit, the entire time this guy came to class in anti-evolution t-shirts. He must have had  least a dozen of 'em! I thought, "How pathetic, that this kid feels he needs to rail against an abiotic scientific theory in order to make himself feel big."

My teacher, Mr. Hayes, gave an excellent lecture on teaching science in science classes, and religious mythology in Sunday school classes before beginning the unit. He was facing a group of very christian, very resistant kids and telling them that he wasn't going to put up with "Din't come from no monkeys!" nonsense during class. It was around that time that I began questioning my beliefs and fell in love with biology.

A little knowledge is a dangerous, wonderful thing. Too bad these kids will never break out of their bubble worlds and try thinking for a change.

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Too bad these kids will never break out of their bubble worlds and try thinking for a change.

Don't despair there is hope. Remember I was a theology student one time. Called to do the Lords work until he let me down. Then I realized he didn't because he didn't exist.

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I'm sure glad I don't have to try to teach the little snots!


If they won't learn, you can't teach.


Yeah, you can lead people to knowledge, but you can't make 'em think. [move] [smilie=dunce.gif] [smilie=smack.gif] :study: [smilie=hello.gif] [smilie=poke.gif][/move]


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