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Posted 27 March 2007 - 08:38 PM
When I return I will be broken, bruised, probably sunburned and slightly dehydrated, but inside my heart will be clean and ready to start life again. Belle will be dirty and happy she was able to run free for a few days.
I will likely leave this Friday so if you don't see me post for a few you will know where I have been. If anyone has any questions about Vision Quests or feels they may want to take the journey themselves I will be happy to answer your questions or help you prepare.
Posted 28 March 2007 - 07:01 AM
I admire your doing this.
Posted 28 March 2007 - 09:57 AM
I look forward to hearing what you discover. But, for my own peace of mind, would you take more water with you? Please don't put yourself in harms way.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 06:02 PM
But I find my walks taking a more introspective turn, especially as I cope with an unpleasant time in my life. Instead of concentrating on walking for exercise, I find myself using this time to look inward and cleanse myself of anger and sadness.
If I were to take with me all the comforts then I would never be able to minimize my life to those things which are literally essential.
On my trip, I pass hundreds of homes and many of them are running sprinklers, so I am never in danger...but I find myself choosing to go without water on my trip, and even welcoming the pains and strains that often arise. I can't really explain it. Sometimes, sore and getting thirsty and with a mile left, I just want to quit, whip out the cell phone and get a ride home. But that's when IT happens. Suddenly, instead of staggering around, my pace quickens to nearly a march and my breath finds a steady huff.....huff.....huff rhythm every six steps. That's when my thoughts become so clear I can actually hear them in my own voice, as if they were off-screen narration. The once unbearable pain is now forgotten, and I am at once oblivious to my surroundings and completely aware of every rustling of grass every bird on every phone wire. That is when that which was confusing begins to become clear.
I wish I could put that feeling into a bottle, but I guess it can only be reached through some sort of physical trial - me through my walks, Coyote on his quest...maybe one of you suffering through 100 situps or something.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 06:21 PM
I was doing a very similar thing to you, FlatEarth, shortly after I retired last fall. But some problems with my feet made it very painful to walk, and one of them became worse the more I walked, so I spent the winter indoors not getting my exercise. I think you guys are pointing me to what I really need to do, and the injured foot is much better now too.
I do so love walking. As a child I'd be the one encouraging everybody to go for long hikes, and the one to insist we go a little farther usually too. It does bring clarity to the mind and it stimulates lots of good processes in the body too.
Posted 28 March 2007 - 06:24 PM
I've always wanted to just go into the forest with a lined book, and several pencils. I would just sit there and write, not worry about anything else. However, I fear I am to young to do that.
You are not too young to do anything, don't put limitations on yourself. When you have a creative impulse, go for it.
I promise you that when you get to be 149 you will not regret the things you did, you will only regret the things you did not do.
Posted 28 March 2007 - 06:29 PM
maybe I should do it...
I have time.
Posted 28 March 2007 - 07:01 PM
What matters is taking advantage of opportunities to improve yourself and learn new things about the world, cause in the end, you're only going to care about what kinds of relationships you had, how much personal enrichment you undertook, and what kind of impact you had on others; the business deals, the tests, the GPA's, the stuff you accumulated, what others thought about you, they don't matter in the long term.
I have to keep reminding myself of these things constantly, because I worry too much about the future and get depressed.
FlatEarth, the experience you have when you get a "second wind" and your thoughts become clear and confident is kind of like the runner's highs I get when I'm out running. Distance walking/running is great for clearing the mind and just allowing all kinds of random thoughts to jump around in your head as you push yourself past what you think you can do. Doesn't it feel great afterwards to keep going even when you really wanted to stop?
TopHat, go for it! Just make sure that someone knows where you're going and around when you plan to be back (sorry, that's my wilderness training kicking in. Too many people get lost and die in the Rockies around here because they didn't think).
Posted 28 March 2007 - 07:55 PM
TopHat: Although you are young it is never too early to begin your own spiritual quest. This has nothing to do with any religious ideas or ghosts or spirits but rather the driving force, the furnace in your belly, the guide that controls your life. For me the Coyote came to me in a dream and ate my heart, yet I live and walk. But my heart belongs to Coyote and it is her path that I must follow. If my life strays too far, then I become weak and tired. Take your pencils and your book and find a place where the only thing you hear is the woods. Sit quietly and count slowly from one thousand. Do this backwards. Then rise up and look around. Watch as an entire new world opens up and you won't be able to write fast enough. Try it, you will be amazed.
FlatEarth: Next time, leave the cell phone at home. Go barefoot or wear sandals if you have sensitive feet and when you get to that point, run your toes through one of those sprinklers. Then turn about and walk home. I had a similar trek once for three miles through the woods to the ocean. When I got there I was facing the largest body of water in the world and hadn't a drop to drink. I walked into the ocean up to my knees and never had water felt so good. Then I had to walk three miles back. Just like you, the walk back was incredible. my senses seemed to be on fire and I saw everything so much clearer. When I finally got back I drank from a clear stream and I have never found water so refreshing.
Force; thank you. It is true we sometimes get so caught up in the trappings of life that we forget our way. I have very little actual family, only one friend left, other than you guys, and much of my life has centered around death and killing. My past is an ugly one and if I were to think of it too often I would probably end up a blithering idiot drooling in a closet somewhere. I am and always will be "under orders" to not say too much so I must keep much of my life a secret. It is all of this "stuff" that has driven me, perhaps guided me back to the "religion" of my ancestors. A belief that all of us are a part of this world and each of us is no more important nor less important than the next. Each people, two legged as well as four legged has a purpose and although some may seem useless, they too have their uses if only to provide us with humor or objects of ridicule. In the end, as Steve and I have already discussed several times. We will be nothing more than ashes spread across the desert blowing in the wind. And all the money, riches, wealth and fame will mean nothing more than an irritation in some dumb ass tourists eye.
Posted 01 April 2007 - 09:35 AM
I may never know why that cross was built there, but it did have a somewhat subtle effect on me. I was raised to be tolerant and accepting of all faiths. I was raised to believe that whatever you felt was the right "religion" for you, was just that. Be it Christian, Islam, Jew, Pagan or Hindu or a combo plate or something you just dreamt up, if it feels right to you, it is right for you. My only prblem has been with those that tell me the opposite. That what I believe is wrong. I don't go door knocking on strangers doors and I expect the same courtesy. I was raised as the ultimate in tolerance. Sometimes I forget that though and this little journey reminded me that I am not against anyones religion as long as their religion isn't against mine. That cross on the hill did not offend me nor anger me. I saw no reason to deface it or damage it. I could have easily taken out my Bowie and carved something profound in it but I felt no compulsion to do that. And even though I believe the person who built it may be misguided and incorrect, I admired their sacrifice and suffering in order to profess their faith. Unlike the great cathedrals of Europe that were built to dominate and belittle the masses. This simple cross was built knowing that it would never be an attraction or even noticed.
So my trip was not wasted. Those of you who know me know that I am a shaman and an elder in my tribe. It is my duty to remain open and accepting of all who come to me and to allow anyone of any faith to enter my home. Like most of you I am extremely intolerant of sillyness (dog butt virgin sightings) and especially proselytizing as that goes against everything I have been raised to believe. I also do not believe in harming anyone for any religious purposes nor forcing anyone to do things against their concience. So even though I did not have a vision I am renewed in my own beliefs and my spirit has been reinforced. Glad to be back!
Posted 01 April 2007 - 09:46 AM
I'm glad you are safe, and your tale about the trip was fascinating.
Posted 01 April 2007 - 10:39 AM
Nice to have you back even though you are tired and sick. But I guess you might have known that this could happen and accept it. Your related adventure was very interesting and makes me think you fulfilled your mission even though in not the way you expected. Perhaps the vision will come as you reflect on your journey.
Not many of us take the journey in exactly your way. And not many will hear of this from a shaman either.
I read your statement "If you are going to profess your faith, why not do it for all to see?" Perhaps the person/persons who erected it felt as you do and wanted his cross not to be seen and meaning not questioned and did not want to have to defend it. Wouldn't it be nice if more people just let their beliefs be part of themselves and not try to force it on others?
Thank you for sharing this with us. I am sure it is very satisfying to you to know exactly what you believe
and live accordingly. If you ask some people, they really aren't able to put in clear words just what they do believe.
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Posted 01 April 2007 - 06:20 PM
Those of you who know me know that I am a shaman and an elder in my tribe.
I didn't know this. Please tell me more about this.
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